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yes the CLA45 is a sedan and a true AMG while the 2 series is a real coupe and only tinged with M, but the 2 GC won't be here for a while so we're going to have to make do. Besides the CLAs rear seat is unusable enough to make this more than fair ;), plus RWD does even things out hehh...



the AMG puts out stoooopid power from a 4 cylinder turbo but what will the consequences be from running 27 psi of boost through a single turbo? Thats right 27 PSI... most stock turbos are running 12-13 psi. Based on what has been done with BMWs I6 (335 turbo tune FTW) in the past its fair to assume the 2 series has quite a bit of horsepower hiding. Although the CLA out powers the M235i by 33(!) ponies the extra heft in the CLA evens out P/W ratios close enough. 9.84 lbs/HP for the CLA45 and 10.4 lbs/HP for M235i.

But again this is not exactly a direct comparison, I mean when or should i say IF the M2 is built it will feature the same weight savings as the M3/4 featured as well as the S55 twin turbo M engine. The M4 boasts 424 hp a torque figure north of 369 lb-ft, for a P/W of 7.68 lb/HP which should be closer to 7 in the lighter M2....






 

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So basically if you want AWD, you get the CLA, and pay $4k more. I know what i want
yea but you have to figure the M performance package on the 235i is an option package on top of the 235. Meaning to to option the CLA 45 like the M235i you're looking at more than a $4K premium on the CLA45. You're looking more like $10-12K... Oh and the 2er is available with AWD as well...
 

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Well one thing's for sure. Given how much people complain about the rear seating in the CLA, I can't wait to hear about all the complaining about the 2-series' rear seat. At least it doesn't look like someone cut out the middle of a 5-series like the 1-series looked like.

I bet the 2-series will come bare bones and the options will keep the pricing in line with the CLA45. BMW isn't known to be generous, and I doubt they are going to start with an entry level vehicle. I bet the AWD system will put it in line with the CLA45, but a tad cheaper. You have to be a bit cheaper when you're a year late out of the gates on an entry level car to persuade some of the tight wads to wait a year to save 1k. Personally not a fan of BMW styling. No matter what they do, their cars look too similar to each other. And unlike Audi's photo copies, BMWs still looks square. It'll be fun to drive though, especially since it is natively RWD.
 

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Well one thing's for sure. Given how much people complain about the rear seating in the CLA, I can't wait to hear about all the complaining about the 2-series' rear seat. At least it doesn't look like someone cut out the middle of a 5-series like the 1-series looked like.

I bet the 2-series will come bare bones and the options will keep the pricing in line with the CLA45. BMW isn't known to be generous, and I doubt they are going to start with an entry level vehicle. I bet the AWD system will put it in line with the CLA45, but a tad cheaper. You have to be a bit cheaper when you're a year late out of the gates on an entry level car to persuade some of the tight wads to wait a year to save 1k. Personally not a fan of BMW styling. No matter what they do, their cars look too similar to each other. And unlike Audi's photo copies, BMWs still looks square. It'll be fun to drive though, especially since it is natively RWD.
well firstly the 2 series is a two door so you know what you're getting into. The CLA runs into rear seat issues because it has 4 doors and people expect more practicality out of 4 doors.

The M pack is an add on to the 235i, the 235i bare MSRPs for ~$33K, the M pack is a $10K option so, no BMW is not generous but the options you will need to tick a box for on CLA45 are already included in the M pack.

From BMW:
Take sport to the streets: show everyone just how wild your BMW 2 Series Coupé really is with the M Sport package. Combined with the M Aerodynamics package (included), it’s an optical exclamation mark that makes its abilities clear even before you make your intentions known.
The M Sport package featuring M Sport suspension and M Aerodynamics package with specialised front apron, side skirts, and rear apron was designed with especially sporty drivers in mind. Large 17" M light alloy wheels in Doublespoke style 460M help emphasise the athletic styling. The BMW Individual High-Gloss Shadow Line features high-gloss Black side window surrounds, including on the mirror base and frame. Eight wide kidney grille slats finished in high-gloss Black, the side "M" logo, chrome tail pipe, and exclusive Estoril Blue paintwork complete the M Sport package aesthetics.

Other colours for the M Sport package are also available, including Mineral Grey metallic, Black Sapphire metallic, Glacier Silver metallic, Mineral White metallic, Alpine White non-metallic and Melbourne Red metallic.

18" M light alloy wheels in Double-spoke style 461 and the Chrome Line are also available.

The M Sport package features an interior with M door sill finishers and sport seats for the driver and front passenger in exclusive M-style Anthracite Hexagon cloth/Alcantara upholstery with contrast stitching in Royal Blue. Further highlights of the M Sport package include the M driver foot rests, shortened gear lever with the “M” logo, M leather steering wheel with multifunction buttons and instrument cluster featuring speedometer and tachometer with red chronoscales and red accent rings. The interior trim in Aluminium Hexagon with Estoril Blue accent lines is particularly sporty. Orange-red and white variable interior lighting provides an athletic atmosphere. The BMW Individual Anthracite headliner on top complements the dynamic look. The radio remote control with Estoril Blue detailing puts the finishing touches on the M Sport package.

Black Dakota leather, Oyster Dakota leather, Terra Dakota leather and Coral Red Dakota leather are also available with the M Sport package upon request.
Actually Mercedes was late out of the gate on entry level, the 1 series (now 2 series) has been in production since 2004 and MSRPed for only 1K less than a 3 series coupe. So no BMW was not late or cheap, that argument should be directed directly at the CLA..

Lastly, yes the 2 series is available with x drive.
 

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I don't even think the 235i will come in XDrive
that will be depressing, this will be a model that falls right under the M2, ideally it should be what they include xDrive on, even more so now with the competition they have on both the coupe and gran coupe.
 
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