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So huge gas guzzlers have become malignantly taboo, why as Americans haven’t we been offered better options for curbing our consumption, here is a quick look at what’s available globally in the hunt for better mpgs

Toyota Urban Cruiser

Euro version of the Scion XD has a combined mileage of 52.8 U.S mpg, the AWD version gets 48

Nissan Qashqai

Global versions of the Qashqai make 56 U.S mpg compared to North American versions that only deliver 26 mpg!!! Diesel fuel is a major cause of the discrepancy, but a 30 mpg difference is borderline insane.

Volkswagon Blue Motion TDI Passat Wagon

Kids to soccer, groceries, long jaunts to the beach? No worries the TDI Passat makes an obscene 65.4 U.S mpg. The Passat is actually manufactured in Amerika and shipped overseas

All of these vehicles are banned by the Federal government citing safety concerns, but it certainly feels more sinister than that… so yea...
 

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I never knew that all these fuel efficient cars were banned in the US. Even if there are safety concerns with these cars, you'd think there would be others that have the same mpg that do not have safety concerns. Many of these vehicles are getting better mileage than even some hybrids.
 

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I never knew that all these fuel efficient cars were banned in the US. Even if there are safety concerns with these cars, you'd think there would be others that have the same mpg that do not have safety concerns. Many of these vehicles are getting better mileage than even some hybrids.
exactly, that's what is so frustrating. were being told that the only way to save the planet is have everyone driving around in chevy volts and using curly lightbulbs. There are real options out there cough.. diesel.. cough.

Especially with most large fleet vehicles being converted to nat gas or propane, Diesel consumption in America is set to fall off a cliff creating a huge vacuum of supply looking for a tank to fill.
 

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always hated how the U.S. always got very few diesels, most of the diesels in america are trucks and not every day commuter cars.
 

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diesel or turbo

or both

that is the way to MPGs.
Id like to see more diesel electric hybrids. Imagine the torque :cool:

Mercedes is primed to make these relatively mainstream. Their diesels are renowned and they own 10% of Tesla....
 
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