yea. let me know what you find for winter rims. there are alot of options out there for aftermarket wheels. dont even know where to begin sometimes.I agree. I think that is why I am having such a hard time finding the right 17" wheels for snows. The car needs a set of wheels with a thin outer lip to emphasize the wheel spokes a little more--almost exaggerating them to make the wheels appear larger. Note that some of the MB accessory wheels lack outer lips to make them appear larger.